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Ve28 =29 =30 =31. Gilbert de Venables of Kinderton b c 1050 a 1086 Since Gilbert de Venables eldest brother was born in 1046 and presuming his other half siblings were born before him he could have born in 1050, which would make him 16 at the time of the Conquest making it possible to have taken part in it. Gilbert came over to England with the Conqueror whose daughter Adela was his sister-in-law. King Stephen, who reigned 1135-1154, was Gilbert's nephew. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ve27 =28 =29 =30 | William or Gilbert de Venables of Kinderton b c 1075 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ve26 =27 =28 =29 | Gilbert de Venables of Kindertonb c 1110
m Margery of Hatton dau of Walter FitzWolfirc, lord of Hatton |
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Ve25 =26 =27 =28 | Sir William de Venables of Kinderton b c 1150 d c 1230 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ve24 =25 =26 =27 | Hugh or Hamon de Venables of Kinderton b c 1180 d 1249
m1. div Gwenllian |
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m2 Alice or Agnes de Oxton dau of Ranulph de Oxton | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ve23 =24 =25 | Roger de Venables of Kinderton b c 1215 d c1261
m. Alice Peninton dau of Alan de Peninton or Pennington |
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Ve22 =23 =24 | Sir William de Venables of Kinderton b c 1240 d 1292 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
m1. ?? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ve21-1 | Cecily de Venables b c 1268
m. Adnace of Allcham ? |
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m2. 1253 Margaret Dutton dau of Thomas de Dutton | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ve21 =22 =23 | Sir Hugh de Venables of Kinderton b c 1270, Sheriff of Cheshire d 1310
m. Agatha Vernon dau of Ralph de Vernon of Shipbroke |
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Ve21-1 | William de Venables b c 1304 dsp | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ve21 =22 | Sir Hugh de Venables of Kinderton b c 1306 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
m1. Elizabeth Mobberley dau of Sir William Mobberley | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ve20-1 | William de Venables dvp 1350
m1. sp Agnes Dutton dau of Sir Peter de Dutton of Warburton |
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m2 Maud Vernon dau of Richard de Vernon of Shipbrook | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ve20-1-1 | issue dsp - Maud | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ve20-1-2 | Katherine de Venebles possibly m William de Marney | -1? Sir Robert de Marney b c 1340
m Alice Layer dau of Richard Layer of Suffolk |
-1-1 Sir William Marney of Layer Marney, Sheriff of Essex and Hertfordshire b about 1365 d 1414
m Elizabeth Sergeants dau of Richard Sergeants or Sergiaux |
-1-1-1 x Marney d unm
-1-1-2 William Marney d unm -1-1-3 Sir John Marney of Layer Marney d c 1471 m before 27.04.1447 Jane Throckmorton dau of John Throckmorton of Gloucestershire |
-1-1-3-1 Sir Henry Marney, 1st Lord of Layer Marney b 1457, d 24.05.1523 m1 Thomasine Arundell dau of Sir John Arundell of Lanherne |
-1-1-3-1-1 John Marney, 2nd Lord b c 1493, d 27.04.1525 m1 Christian Newburgh d 06.08.1517 + 2 ch dau/heir of Sir Roger Newburgh m2 Bridget Waldegrave bur 20.09.1549, dau of Sir William Waldegrave |
-1-1-3-1-1-1 Katherine Marney b c 1515 m1 c 1528 George Ratcliffe dsp before 11.1542, son of Robert, Earl of Sussex m2 Sir Thomas Poynings, Sheriff of Kent, Baron dsp 17/8.08.1545 -1-1-3-1-1-2 Elizabeth Marney b c 1517 m Thomas Howard, 1st Viscount of Bindon d 28.01.1581/2 |
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Ve20-2 | John de Venables dvp
m. Isabel Egerton dau of Philip de Egerton |
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A | William de Venables d young | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
m2 Katherine Houghton dau of Richard Houghton | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ve20 =21 =22 | Sir Hugh de Venables of Kinderton, Sheriff of Cheshire b c 1340 d 1382-3
m Margery Cotton of Rudheth b c 1340 dau of |
+1 Perkin or Hugh de Cotton | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ve20-1 | Sir Richard Venables of Kinderton d 23.07.1403
m. Isabel Langton dau of Rawlin de Langton of Newton and Walton |
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Ve20-1-1 | Sir Hugh Venables of Kinderton Visitation shows this Hugh's wife and mother of Richard, Jane and Elizabeth as married to Parnell Dutton whom we provisionally show as married to his son. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
m. Cicely | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ve20-1-1-1 | Sir Hugh Venables of Kinderton dsp | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
m Parnell Dutton b c 1400 dau of Sir Piers Dutton she ?m2 his brother Richard or uncle Henry Venables and had issue | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ve20-1-1-2 | Sir Richard Venables of Kinderton
ancestor of Thomas Jefferson
m. Elizabeth Radclyffe dau of Sir John Radclyffe of Ordsall |
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1 | Sir Hugh Venables of Kinderton dsp Bloreheath 1459 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
m. Elizabeth Troutbeck dau of William Troutbeck | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ve20-1-1-3 | Jane Venables b by 1420
m. Richard Cotton of Richware |
-1 Margaret de Coton b 1473 Staffordshire d 1560 Leicestershire
-2 Elizabeth de Coton b 1483 Staffordshire |
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Ve20-1-1-4 | Elizabeth Venables b 1416 Cheshire d 1 Jun 1470 Mobberley Cheshire
m 1443 Sir Adam Bostock of Bostock b c 6 Mar 1412 Bostock Cheshire k Bloreheath 1459 son of Ralph de Bostock and Isabel Lawton |
-1 Adam Bostock
-2 Nicholas de Bostock -3 Eleanor Bostock b 1440 m Richard Masterson -4 Elizabeth Bostock m Gatacre -5 Rafe Bostock -6 William Bostock |
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Ve20-1-2 | Henry Venables of Kinderton | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ve20-1-3 | Joan Venables
m1. Thomas Grosvenor of Hulme |
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m2. Sir Thomas Booth of Barton | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ve20-2 | Thomas Venables of Horton ancestor of Venables of Horton and Ayton | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ve20-3 | William Venables, later of Golborne Constable of Chester
m. Blanche |
-1 Thomas Venables of Golborne, later of Kinderton< m 1427 Margaret Stanley dau of Sir William Stanley of Hooton | -1-1 William Venables of Golborne, later of Kinderton
m1 Petronell Coversonell dau of Sir Piers Coversonell/Caverswall |
-1-1-1 Thomas Venables of Golborne and Kinderton k Flodden 09.09.1513 m Cicely Stanley dau of ?? Stanley of Weaver | -1-1-1-1 Sir William Venables of Kinderton d 07.1544
m1 Elenor Cotton dau of Richard Cotton of Richware |
-1-1-1-1-1 Sir Thomas Venables of Kinderton d 07.1580
m Maud Needham dau of Sir Robert Needham of Shevington |
-1-1-1-1-1-1 Thomas Venables of Kinderton d 1606 m1 Elizabeth Brereton d 06.1591/2 + 3 ch dau of Sir William Brereton of Brereton m2 Anne Gargrave + 3 ch dau of Sir Cotton Gargrave of Nostell | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ve20-4 | Ellen Venables
m. Thomas Erdeswick |
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Ve20-5 | Emily or Angella Venables This is probably the Amilia, wife
of Sir William Brereton, who is shown by Ormerod as being of 2 generations
earlier.
m 1386 William Brereton |
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Ve20-6 | Isabel Venables
m. David Egerton son of Philip |
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Ve20 =21 | Margery Venables b c 1370
m1 Richard Bulkeley of Cheadle |
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m2 1393 Randle Mainwaring of Over Peover b c 1368, d 1456 | -1 Sir John Mainwaring of Over Peover d before 1481 Visitation
1580 shows Sir John's wife as Margaret Tuchett, dau of Lord Audley, and
shows Mary Delves as first wife of their son William. We follow BP1934
& BLG1952 in showing the marriages as follows ... m1 1411 Margaret Delves dau of John Delves of Doddington
-2 William Mainwaring of Ightfield b c1396, d 1499 m Margaret Warren dau of John Warren -3 Randle Mainwaring of Kirmincham or Carincham m Margaret Savage dau of Sir John Savage of Stainesby and Clifton -4 Hugh Mainwaring or Manwaring of Croxton m Warren Croxton dau of _ Croxton of Croxton -5 Elizabeth Mainwaring -6 Cicely Mainwaring m Thomas Fowlehurst of Crewe -7 Joan Mainwaring m 1411 John Davenport of Davenport -8 Ellen Mainwaring m Thomas Fitton of Gawsworth -9 Agnes Mainwaring d unm -10 Margaret/Margery Mainwaring b c 1396 Baddilegh Cheshire d 1432 Baddington m1 William Bromley of Boddington family m2 Sir John Nidham judge in Chester -11 Clemence Mainwaring mentioned by various web sites m 1413 William Beeston of Beeston d 1416 -12 Maud Mainwaring possibly of this generation m William Poole of Poole a 1429 -13 Alice Mainwaring possibly of this generation m William Richard de Spurstowe |
-7-1 -10-1 -10-2 Margaret Bromley b c 1405 Bromley London d 1454 Baddington m Sir William Hexstall -10-2-1 Joane Hexstall b c 1430 Baddington Nantwich Cheshire d there 1453 -10-2-2 Margaret Hexstall b c 1442 Chillesmore Warwick d 1486 Hambleton Rutland m1 William Whetenhall m2 Sir Henry Ferrers Sheriff of Kent |
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Ve20-4 | Roger de Venables of Golborne a 1380 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
m. Elizabeth Golborne dau of William Golborne of Golborne | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
A | Hugh Venables of Golborne | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ve20 | Joan Venables b c 1330
m. Sir Thomas de Latham b c 1330 |
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La19 | Isabel de Latham
m 1385 Sir John de Stanley b 1340, d 1414 Lord Depute of Ireland 1386 to 1388, Justiciaryof Ireland 1389 to 1391, Controller of the Royal Household in 1399, Lieutenant of Ireland 1399 to 1401. |
-1) Sir John Stanley
-2 Henry Stanley -3 Sir Thomas Stanley of Elford -4 Ralph Stanley |
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Ve22 | Sir Richard de Venables of Bollin b c 1308 Shown by Ormerod as being son rather than brother of Sir Hugh by Katherine Houghton.
m. Joan Fitton dau of Hamon Fitton of Bollin |
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Ve21 | Sir William Venables of Bollin b c 1340
m Jane Massy dau of John Massey of Tatton |
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Ve20 | Dowce/Dulcia Venables b c 1390
m. Sir Robert Booth of Dunham Bo20, Sheriff of Cheshire b c 1405 (may have been much earlier) d 16.09.1450 |
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Ve20-2 | Alice Venables
m Edmund Trafford d 1457 |
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Ve21-2 | Jenkin Venables | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
m. ?? widow of _ Starky of Stretton | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ve21-4 | Thomas Venables of Horton and Hartford | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Whereas Visitation 1580 places Thomas here without question, Visitation 1613 provides an alternative version alongside that version, showing him as possibly 3rd son with elder brothers Richard and William of Hugh son of John, without specifying who that John was. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ve21-5 | Ellen de Venables | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
m. John Ardvine son of Sir John | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ve21-6 | Isabel de Venables | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
m. David de Egerton dsp | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ve20-7 | daughter possibly of this generation one after ? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
m. Edward Giffard of Chillington a 1378 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ve20 | Alice de Venables apparently of this
generation
m Sir John de Arderne of Alford and Alvanley d c 1349 |
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Ve21-9+ | other issue - Robert, John, William | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ve21-10? | possibly of this generation and branch was:
Joan Venables b 1360 m Sir John Handforth |
-1 Maud Handforth b c 1380 Leicestershire d 1489 m Sir Hugh Calveley b c 1385 Lea East Cheshire d 1433 Nantwich | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ve22 =Le22 | William de Venables of Bradwall William's son by his first marriage
is shown under Agnes. He was ancestor of many families of the name of Legh
or Leigh.
m1 Agnes le Legh dau of Richard de Legh of High Legh |
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m2. Katherine de St. Pierre dau of Sir Urian de St. Pierre | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ve21-2 | William de Venables of Bradwall
m. Katherine Grosvenor |
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Ve21-2-1 | Jane de Venables
m. Thomas Berington |
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Ve21-2-2 | Elene de Venables
m. Robert de Knyperley |
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Ve23-2 | Rose de Venables
m. Alexander de Bamvyte |
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Ve23-3 | Roger de Venables | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ve23-4 | Amy de Venables
m. Hugh de Hatton |
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Ve24-2 | Elizabeth de Venables | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ve24-3 | Beatrix de Venables
m. Roger de Toft |
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?Ve24 =26 | Roese
de Venables, supposedly of this generation
m. Robert de Stokeport |
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Ve25-2 | William de Venebles of .. and Raynor | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ve25-2-1 | Lettice de Venables
m1. Sir Phillip Bamville |
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m2. Sir Richard Wilbram de Wilburgham b c 1207 Shipbrook/Radnor Cheshire d 1273 Wymincham Cheshire | -1 William de Wilbraham Lord Wymincham b 1246 Radnor Congleton Cheshire d 1^339 Radnor m Christiana de Crossleigh | -1-1 William de Wilburgham Lord of Radnor b c 1300 Radnor d c 1363 m Cecelia
-1-2 Raulph de Wilbraham -1-3 Robert de Wilbraham -1-4 Agnes Wilbraham m 1311 Robert le Maistresson/Masterson |
-1-1-1 Ralph de Wilburgham Lord of Radnor
-1-4-1 Thomas le Maitresson/Masterson b 1331 Nantwqich Cheshire d c 1427 Nantwich Cheshire m Katherine de Dutton |
-1-1-1-1 Ralph de Wilburgham Lord of Radnor b c 1340 Radnor d there 1388 m Felicia de Hulme
dau of John de Hulme
-1-4-1-1 Richard le Maitresonne/Masterson b 1374 Nantwich d there aft 1447 m Joanna Egerton |
-1-1-1-1-1 Thomas de Wilburgham Lord of Radnor b c 1366 Radnor d there 1410 m Margery de Legh dau of Thomas Legh of Booths Hall and Anna
-1-4-1-1-1 Thomas Maystrson/Masterson b 1401 d c 1435 Nantwich m Cecilia Leicester b 1407 d 1435 |
-1-1-1-1-1-1 Thomas de Wilbraham b c 1389 Radnor m Margaret Goldborne b c 1389 Woodhey Cheshire dau of John Golborne and Eleanor/Ellena de Cawarden
-1-4-1-1-1-1 Richard Nicholas Maisterson/Masterson b 1431 d aft 1467 Nantwich m c 1462 Elen/Eleanor Bostock |
-1-1-1-1-1-1-1 Thomas Wilbraham III
-1-1-1-1-1-1-2 John (the Younger) Wlbraham -1-1-1-1-1-1-3 William Wilbraham -1-1-1-1-1-1-4 Randulph Wilbraham -1-4-1-1-1-1-1 Thomas Masterson/Maisterson Esq -1-4-1-1-1-1-2 Richard Maisterson/Masterson m Eleanor/Ellin Bostock |
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m3. Robert Croft | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ve25-2-2 | Beatrix de Venables | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ve25-3+ | other issue - Robert, Ve25-4 Hamon/Hugh | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ve26 =Le26 | Hamon de Venables or Leigh of High Legh a temp Henry II who r. 1154-1189 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ve26 =25 | Amabil de Venables b
about 1140
m. Richard de Davenport |
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Ve26-4+ | other issue - Gilbert, Ve26-5 Michael, Ve26-6 Richard, Ve26-7 Hugh, Ve26-8 Maud b about 1145 |
Ssources: Visitation
Cheshire, 1580, Venables Baron of Kinderton + various web sites, in particular http://venables.free.fr
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